[RBW] Bike racks revisited

[Kelly]

I have been looking at bike racks lately. I've been very happy with the
Thule double with tope tube hook. The padding and such doesn't leave marks
and has been a great tool over the last couple of years. (
http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/carriers-and-racks/bike-carriers/hitch-mounted-bike-carriers/thule-doubletrack-2-bike-990xt-_-5776509
) We have been looking for a new one and I found this swagman.
( http://www.swagman.net/product/quad-22 ) which I really like as it will
do what my Thule does and lets me add two more bikes. We often tour with
another couple so on the Van this would be a great setup for travel, I
think .

So things I look at...

Will with mount without pushing down on fenders... check
is it safe for paint..
check
easy access to rear of vehicle not so
much / NO if bikes are on it.

I've used hanging racks and without pipe insulation to protect the tubes
they have not worked out well for me.
The other up right racks tend to need to come down about where my front
rack is or onto of the fender to hold it securely
The downtime racks don't like my third water bottle cage.
Roof racks are just too too much trouble when connected and disconnecting
the dyno hub a taking the wheel off.. yes I'm spoiled and lazy.

Note on the swagman my plan would be to mount lights on it for brake turn
etc when four bikes are on there traveling.. it sticks out a long ways.

I haven't bought anything yet but overall looking at the wheel trays... the
2+2 approach etc I haven't found anything as solid and useful as the
swagman..

Kelly

[Michael Hechmer]

Kelly, I recently posted a very positive review of my new bike rack.
Titled, I think, 1UpUSA and Rivs. Photos here

https://www.flickr.com/photos/***@N08/sets/72157655639570388

Michael

Post by Kelly
I have been looking at bike racks lately. I've been very happy with the
Thule double with tope tube hook. The padding and such doesn't leave marks
and has been a great tool over the last couple of years. (
http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/carriers-and-racks/bike-carriers/hitch-mounted-bike-carriers/thule-doubletrack-2-bike-990xt-_-5776509
) We have been looking for a new one and I found this swagman. (
http://www.swagman.net/product/quad-22 ) which I really like as it will
do what my Thule does and lets me add two more bikes. We often tour with
another couple so on the Van this would be a great setup for travel, I
think .
So things I look at...
Will with mount without pushing down on fenders... check
is it safe for paint..
check
easy access to rear of vehicle not so
much / NO if bikes are on it.
I've used hanging racks and without pipe insulation to protect the tubes
they have not worked out well for me.
The other up right racks tend to need to come down about where my front
rack is or onto of the fender to hold it securely
The downtime racks don't like my third water bottle cage.
Roof racks are just too too much trouble when connected and disconnecting
the dyno hub a taking the wheel off.. yes I'm spoiled and lazy.
Note on the swagman my plan would be to mount lights on it for brake turn
etc when four bikes are on there traveling.. it sticks out a long ways.
I haven't bought anything yet but overall looking at the wheel trays...
the 2+2 approach etc I haven't found anything as solid and useful as the
swagman..
Kelly

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Michael

I saw that and saw the connection points on top of the fenders. I'm glad it works well for you but it doesn't look to me to fit my needs. I started a different thread as its a matter of personal preference and I didn't want to hijack a review or start a debate.

Kelly

Sent from my iPhone

Kelly, I recently posted a very positive review of my new bike rack. Titled, I think, 1UpUSA and Rivs. Photos here
Michael

I have been looking at bike racks lately. I've been very happy with the Thule double with tope tube hook. The padding and such doesn't leave marks and has been a great tool over the last couple of years. ( http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/carriers-and-racks/bike-carriers/hitch-mounted-bike-carriers/thule-doubletrack-2-bike-990xt-_-5776509 ) We have been looking for a new one and I found this swagman. ( http://www.swagman.net/product/quad-22 ) which I really like as it will do what my Thule does and lets me add two more bikes. We often tour with another couple so on the Van this would be a great setup for travel, I think .
So things I look at...
Will with mount without pushing down on fenders... check
is it safe for paint.. check
easy access to rear of vehicle not so much / NO if bikes are on it.
I've used hanging racks and without pipe insulation to protect the tubes they have not worked out well for me.
The other up right racks tend to need to come down about where my front rack is or onto of the fender to hold it securely
The downtime racks don't like my third water bottle cage.
Roof racks are just too too much trouble when connected and disconnecting the dyno hub a taking the wheel off.. yes I'm spoiled and lazy.
Note on the swagman my plan would be to mount lights on it for brake turn etc when four bikes are on there traveling.. it sticks out a long ways.
I haven't bought anything yet but overall looking at the wheel trays... the 2+2 approach etc I haven't found anything as solid and useful as the swagman..
Kelly

[Abcyclehank]

Kelly,

The swagman looks like a good option but did you see the bike limit of 45lbs each. Since you load your touring bikes (with everything but the kitchen sink-Just Kidding) riding at 70-90lbs you will need to empty all camera equipment, coffee brewing mediums, etc. before loading your monster rides.

Did you ever end up with a jumbo sized custom tandem or might you be interested in joining Amit and myself trying to persuade Grant to produce at least 3 in our size (66cm+ Captain).

Also contact me offline if you might want to land a (white rhino) before next year.

Sincerely,
Ryan Hankinson

[Michael Hechmer]

I think that if you look at the hollywood rack carefully you will see that
it wants to be over the tire perpendicularly. That suggest it will not
work well with fenders.

Bike rack companies, all of them, claim their racks will work with all
bikes, but they invariably show pictures of MTB w/out fenders or racks.

Michael

Post by Michael Hechmer
Michael
I saw that and saw the connection points on top of the fenders. I'm glad
it works well for you but it doesn't look to me to fit my needs. I started
a different thread as its a matter of personal preference and I didn't want
to hijack a review or start a debate.
Kelly
Sent from my iPhone
Kelly, I recently posted a very positive review of my new bike rack.
Titled, I think, 1UpUSA and Rivs. Photos here
Michael

Post by Kelly
I have been looking at bike racks lately. I've been very happy with the
Thule double with tope tube hook. The padding and such doesn't leave marks
and has been a great tool over the last couple of years. (
http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/carriers-and-racks/bike-carriers/hitch-mounted-bike-carriers/thule-doubletrack-2-bike-990xt-_-5776509
) We have been looking for a new one and I found this swagman. (
http://www.swagman.net/product/quad-22 ) which I really like as it will
do what my Thule does and lets me add two more bikes. We often tour with
another couple so on the Van this would be a great setup for travel, I
think .
So things I look at...
Will with mount without pushing down on fenders... check
is it safe for paint..
check
easy access to rear of vehicle not so
much / NO if bikes are on it.
I've used hanging racks and without pipe insulation to protect the tubes
they have not worked out well for me.
The other up right racks tend to need to come down about where my front
rack is or onto of the fender to hold it securely
The downtime racks don't like my third water bottle cage.
Roof racks are just too too much trouble when connected and disconnecting
the dyno hub a taking the wheel off.. yes I'm spoiled and lazy.
Note on the swagman my plan would be to mount lights on it for brake turn
etc when four bikes are on there traveling.. it sticks out a long ways.
I haven't bought anything yet but overall looking at the wheel trays...
the 2+2 approach etc I haven't found anything as solid and useful as the
swagman..
Kelly

[Tim Gavin]

The Hollywood Sport Rider and Trail Rider racks have wheel trays and a
padded bar that comes down over the top tube. They are quite fender
friendly.

Hollywood Racks aren't MUSA nor are they as nice as the fantastic racks
from 1UpUSA. But they're a step up from the super-cheapos and don't
interfere with fenders or racks.

Tim

Post by Michael Hechmer
I think that if you look at the hollywood rack carefully you will see that
it wants to be over the tire perpendicularly. That suggest it will not
work well with fenders.
Bike rack companies, all of them, claim their racks will work with all
bikes, but they invariably show pictures of MTB w/out fenders or racks.
Michael

[WETH]

I get four fendered bikes on my Hollywood rack easily. There is no interference for me

[WETH]

Kelly,
I like that style rack too. Mine is a Hollywood http://m.hollywoodracks.com/hitch-rack-sport-rider-4.html
But it appears to be similar to your swagman model.
Safe cycling.
Erl

[BenG]

After a recent group ride, parking neighbor and I started loading up our bike pairs concurrently, he to a hitch rack on a diesel Super Duty, me to F150 bed and back seat. I spread the blankets, laid mystery bike in the bed, rolled out and secured the bed cover, then removed 47cm Betty's front wheel and slid her onto the back seat. We drove away while neighbor was still racking his squishy mountain bikes. Keeping it real, truck style.